In partnership with Resonance FM and Espaço Agora Now, we’re broadcasting a series of programmes following the progress of Liquid Becomings: the European Pavilion 2024.

This week, we’ll be hearing from two leading thinkers as they explore different but linked issues and challenges around public space.

Marleen Stikker is one of the founders and Director of DE WAAG in Amsterdam. DE WAAG future lab reinforces critical reflection on technology, develops technological and social design skills, and encourages social innovation. Marlene also founded the Digitale Stad (Digital City) in 1993 – the first virtual community introducing free public access to the Internet in Amsterdam. She leads a transdisciplinary team of designers, artists, and scientists, utilising public research and key enabling methodologies to empower people to participate in the collective design of open, fair and inclusive futures. Interviewed by Godelieve van Heteren

Miguel Figueira is an award-winning architect who studied at the University of Porto’s faculty of architecture. He was responsible for the local technical office in Montemor-o-Velho, Portugal (1997-2001) and for the urban design of the municipality until 2014. Miguel is the founding member of civic movement SOS Cabedelo, which advocates for the recognition of the sea and waves in territorial planning and coastal protection policies. A keen surfer and activist, his work and advocacy for oceans as public spaces is internationally recognised. He is also the author of book O Mar E a Nossa Terra. His participation on the podcast is an extract from a longer interview that will be broadcast in full.

Liquid Becomings by Espaço Agora Now is the European Pavilion 2024, commissioned by The European Cultural Foundation.

Resonance FM is the project’s radio and podcast partner.

Official soundtrack: Umbra – Motility, by Marija Balubdžić, Umbra